Ok so I’m late on the details. If you were hanging out so much you could have left a comment on the original entry. But it’s ok the logs tell me a lot of you are coming back regularly.
The advertising was for a deceased estate auction $160K+ buyers for three 1 bedroom units. I know the building in Potts Point as I owned three units there until 1991.
I bought a unit in the building again in 1999 and sold it as a wrap. So I’m quite comfortable with the building. It has some problems: a dodgy hot water boiler and roof leaks. The strata levies have gone up 400% in 3 years not counting special levies. There is also a current bunfight between owners with proxy battles at every meeting.
Oh and the units are 33sqm each. That puts them in the difficult to finance category.
I hate going to auctions. There is no point in preparing for them because most times I am outbid. I went along just in case and to see what they sold for.
I wouldn’t mind buying the building piecemeal over the next 10 years or so.
The current rent is $170, $180 and vacant. The two existing tenants are willing to sign new leases at $200 as is.
The vacant unit is one I owned until 10 years ago! It was sold by the mortgagee in possession in 1991 for $81K (a song at the time). I bought it in 1987/88 for $47K.
I made an asking price offer of $179K last year on another unit in the building but the vendor decided not to sell. So I figured anything up to $179K was good buying.
Anyway I picked the first and third up for $167,500 and the second cost me $165,000. Now I’m busily organising finance and legal structures for the ownership. The gross yield comes in at 6.20% making them negative cashflow to start with.
More as it progresses
I need the cash for another investment and the sell price represents a 10% gain on entry price of $9.85 so I’m taking profits. I have a sell in for CSR @ 5.63 but I don’t think it will hit this 3% price target today. Don’t you hate it when plans change? CSR was a hold but now I need the money elsewhere.
I bought 3 Kings Cross units at auction this evening. I’ll post the details tomorrow. I always get scared when bidding. “What if I this is all a very big mistake?” goes my self talk.
I’ve bid at more than few auctions, been under-bidder often but only won an Auction four times before this. Maybe it gets better with experience, but real estate is not the sort of investment people normally do hundreds of transactions in.
Now I’ve bid successfully at unclaimed jewelry auctions. The emotional roller coaster was the same. That’s good practice if I’m moving into an auction buying phase.
These auctions are advertised in Saturday’s SMH, pawn-brokers use them to clear unredeemed pledges. Most of the regulars are jewelers and traders so it can be fun. I have not seen screaming bargains but I did buy an electric guitar and and a swiss watch at good prices.
It’s been a year since I’ve been to these clearences. Time to find a SMH.
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“The past 12 months has seen huge growth in Sydney’s western suburbs, with the top five local government areas for growth Concord (nearly 26 percent), Camden (23 percent), Fairfield (nearly 21 percent), Blacktown (20 percent) and Burwood (nearly 20 percent).” A Current Affair story.
So is location^3 a lie? Well, mostly yes. Every suburb has good and bad areas. Returns are influenced by relative location factors. Down beside housing commission estates and train lines, up near the beach and on quiet roads.
The median price in an area is the greatest factor in price movement. Sydney’s west has played catchup this year and “close to schools, buses and transport” has nothing to do with it. Lower priced houses appreciate more as the median price moves.
That doesn’t mean buy median and below. Steve Navra advocates buying 30% above median house price with apparent success. Good profits can be made in all market segments if you invest wisely. Just don’t fall for the location, location, location line.
Negative gearing has a lot to answer for. I was sent an article with this quote buried deep in it.
“If you desire to identify potentially overpriced markets, compare
the monthly cost of owning a given home to the monthly cost of
renting that same home. After factoring in taxes, if owning costs
significantly more than renting, than you’ve got more potential
downside risk,” Tyson added.
The original US Realty Times article is here.
In Australian capital cities renting is normally cheaper than owning. There is a premium paid for potential capital gains. But reread the quote… “after factoring in taxes” and “significantly more”. So add the tax refund at 30% to 48.5% on the loss and ask if the cost gap between renting and owning has grown?
I’d guess it has, but I don’t know where to get the data. It’s another point to ponder when assessing a market.
Long term investors deal with this uncertainty through buying quality for the long term. Short term market fluctuations do not concern them. “Time in the market” not “timing the market” is their slogan.
In Housing Boom I touched on a price-to-income measure for the state of the housing boom. For those who missed it, I simply questioned the disconnect between property prices and household wages.
There is a flaw in my logic. Median priced homes are not bought by median income earners in every suburb. In Sydney’s eastern suburbs especially, many people say they could not afford to buy the home they are in today if they had to pay today’s prices.
This may mean the prices are unsustainable but it more likely means owners will stay in their current homes for at least another 7 years (the average first mortgage life). At 10% compound return, an investment doubles every 7.2 years. Coincidence? I don’t think so. Historically that is what Sydney has done.
Median incomes include all income earners. School-leavers and low income earners skew the figures lower. Home and investment property buyers are not in that demographic.
I did have a sell order in for my remaining NCP @ 10.46 but I cancelled it. If I’m betting the market will consolidate over the next few days, then NCP should follow.
I could sell as insurance but given how long I’ve gone on BHP it doesn’t really make sense.
NCP spent most of the day above 10.46 with a high of 10.59 before falling off in the last half hour to close at 10.46. So the call looks ok. We’ll see what happens over the weekend.
There, that’s out for all to see.
This is not strictly a trading position. But If it jumps I’ll take it.
Given the perilous state of the stock market I’ve been keeping an eye out for value stocks that pay consistent dividends, represent a discount to NTA and have good businesses. CSR was one of the ones on the list and is due to pay a dividend in November.
It’s languished recently so I thought I’d buy some for a longer term. If it jumps a decent percentage over a little while I’ll sell it. But this is the closest I’ve come to a bottom drawer purchase.
Andy, my full service broker called me today. There must be something about having an unused margin facility that makes these guys nervous ;). Anyhow he gave good spiel so I thought I’d give it a go.
Andy’s 5 good reasons to buy BHP under $10.00
Market should be up – Microsoft released a ripper result overnight
Spread of BHP and to BHP-Billiton suggests BHP has upside
The ADR’s had good night
Charts point to a break out through 9.80 with a target of 10.20 (maybe upto 10.60)
Moody’s lifted its rating for some of the BHP group
Following brokers tips is not the way to riches, but if you don’t take some of their tips they might stop calling. Not necessarily a bad thing that – but I don’t trade full time so things that save me time are good.